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s4nct1m0ny
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Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 08:46AM |
Quote: Posted 04/04/04 17:27:56 (GMT) by Jason1885 Maul still owns Bandon. If you brought Mission and T3-M4 in your party at the time you faced Bandon, Bandon looks pathetic. I doubt it. But if you gain enough experience before fighting him then that can be true. |
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Merciless_Ming
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Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 09:50AM |
Darth Maul, no problemos! Lets compare these two. Darth Maul has a two bladed saber, took out a Jedi Master, gave Obi-wan a run for his money, has a nice personal ship, was apprentice to the emperor, who is the most powerful darksider in star wars. And he kicked qui-gon with no backup. He got kicked by obi-wan, after a long fight, and nearly killing him.
Dark Bandon destroys stuff for no reason, lost to me(revan), with backup and was apprentice to a bald, nojawed sith lord with an M on his head.
Darth Maul hands down. _________________ I feel sorry for that Sarlaac thing..... |
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Winterfox
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Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 09:54AM |
Let's be truthful. If Maul was in the game, players would have been able to come up with some tactic or cheese to defeat him in two rounds flat -- you can do that even with Malak. (Buff, destroy all the tanks, smack Malak. Goes down in three-four hit.) Comparing the characters based on how fast you can kill them in KotOR is rather redundant. _________________ The Shadows You Cast -- Post-KotOR fanfic. Yes, I'm doing a Canderous/fem!Revan ship. Yes, I'm a canon purist. No, they aren't mutually exclusive. |
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s4nct1m0ny
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Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 01:05PM |
Quote: Posted 04/05/04 09:54:23 (GMT) by Winterfox
Let's be truthful. If Maul was in the game, players would have been able to come up with some tactic or cheese to defeat him in two rounds flat -- you can do that even with Malak. (Buff, destroy all the tanks, smack Malak. Goes down in three-four hit.) Comparing the characters based on how fast you can kill them in KotOR is rather redundant. I did mention that it didn't have to be based on whether they fought in a duel. I meant overrall, who was the better character. This game is anyway very easy, I defeated Bendak Starkiller(a level 8 soldier) with a level 2 character. So it is always possible to kill anyone, no matter how powerful they are in this game. I was looking for arguments like this one I am writing below (this is also my opinion).
Darth Maul has a Sith speeder, Sith lightsaber, Sith tatoos which rival those of Uthar Wynn's, cool Sith robes, and a Sith binocular. These are his items which make him cool. He only lacks the anger and rage because he seems to use his excitement and confidence to achieve his goals. Darth Bandon is cool for having a great armor which shows his craftsmanship, a Sith lightsaber, and he is very smart because he knows where to find Revan as he is standing at places where you find Star Maps. He also is quite ruthless and angry and these are the things which make me admire him. He only lacks discipline and self-control. He only uses his temper to achieve his goals. |
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Darth Stalin
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Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 08:19PM |
Quote: Posted 04/05/04 13:05:31 (GMT) by s4nct1m0ny Quote: Posted 04/05/04 09:54:23 (GMT) by Winterfox
Let's be truthful. If Maul was in the game, players would have been able to come up with some tactic or cheese to defeat him in two rounds flat -- you can do that even with Malak. (Buff, destroy all the tanks, smack Malak. Goes down in three-four hit.) Comparing the characters based on how fast you can kill them in KotOR is rather redundant.
I did mention that it didn't have to be based on whether they fought in a duel. I meant overrall, who was the better character. This game is anyway very easy, I defeated Bendak Starkiller(a level 8 soldier) with a level 2 character. So it is always possible to kill anyone, no matter how powerful they are in this game. I was looking for arguments like this one I am writing below (this is also my opinion). Darth Maul has a Sith speeder, Sith lightsaber, Sith tatoos which rival those of Uthar Wynn's, cool Sith robes, and a Sith binocular. These are his items which make him cool. He only lacks the anger and rage because he seems to use his excitement and confidence to achieve his goals. Darth Bandon is cool for having a great armor which shows his craftsmanship, a Sith lightsaber, and he is very smart because he knows where to find Revan as he is standing at places where you find Star Maps. He also is quite ruthless and angry and these are the things which make me admire him. He only lacks discipline and self-control. He only uses his temper to achieve his goals. Trust me you won't be able to beat Bendak on Difficult with a Level 2 character, unless you cheat.... _________________ Darth Stalin- Bow down before the man of steel  XBL 360 Gamertag: Cruxis Mithos |
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WardFizark
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Joined: 16 Feb 2004 |
Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 08:42PM |
Quote: Posted 04/05/04 20:19:12 (GMT) by Darth Stalin Quote: Posted 04/05/04 13:05:31 (GMT) by s4nct1m0ny Quote: Posted 04/05/04 09:54:23 (GMT) by Winterfox
Let's be truthful. If Maul was in the game, players would have been able to come up with some tactic or cheese to defeat him in two rounds flat -- you can do that even with Malak. (Buff, destroy all the tanks, smack Malak. Goes down in three-four hit.) Comparing the characters based on how fast you can kill them in KotOR is rather redundant.
I did mention that it didn't have to be based on whether they fought in a duel. I meant overrall, who was the better character. This game is anyway very easy, I defeated Bendak Starkiller(a level 8 soldier) with a level 2 character. So it is always possible to kill anyone, no matter how powerful they are in this game. I was looking for arguments like this one I am writing below (this is also my opinion). Darth Maul has a Sith speeder, Sith lightsaber, Sith tatoos which rival those of Uthar Wynn's, cool Sith robes, and a Sith binocular. These are his items which make him cool. He only lacks the anger and rage because he seems to use his excitement and confidence to achieve his goals. Darth Bandon is cool for having a great armor which shows his craftsmanship, a Sith lightsaber, and he is very smart because he knows where to find Revan as he is standing at places where you find Star Maps. He also is quite ruthless and angry and these are the things which make me admire him. He only lacks discipline and self-control. He only uses his temper to achieve his goals.
Trust me you won't be able to beat Bendak on Difficult with a Level 2 character, unless you cheat.... Errr.. yeah you can. I've done it. Plasma grenades followed by a fe smacks with my amped up Prototype Vibroblade. There may have been a few heal packs in there  _________________ "Is that a lightsaber in your pocket...?" |
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Anonononomos
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Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 10:15PM |
I don't see why Bandon is smart.
Malak knew where the Star Maps were. So he could've given Bandon a list. Calo went to one and got killed, so Revan's already been there, scratch that. He could ask the people at Korriban for assistance, Revan has to break into the Sith base on Manaan etc. I don't see that much difficulty in finding him. |
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x_xSublimex_x
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Posted: Monday, 05 April 2004 10:34PM | |
How could Bandon possible win against Maul? Maul took Obi Wan and Qui Gon by himself,when Bandon has 2 other Dark Jedi with him,And Cannot even take you down. Then again,Revan does take Bandon's Master down,What hope does Darth Bandon have?Maul was apprentice to The Emporer,Anakin Skywalker was also..Which means Maul is somewhat close to the expectations that the Emporer has,which are obviously high. Maul *probably* could've taken Obi down,If he wasn't standing so close to the edge. Obi wan flips up and grabs Qui Gon's lightsabre at the same time,when he lands he slices Maul in half and he falls. If Maul was closer to the wall,Obi wan wouldn't have anywhere to jump in order to suprise him. He would swing up and go infront of him,yet engaging another duel until one of them died. |
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dgreatbobs
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Posted: Tuesday, 06 April 2004 10:04AM |
Maul doesn't waste his forcepowers on weaklings,Bandon thinks killing weaklings makes him look superior. If Darth Maul was versing Bandon, Bandon would probably aready be exhausted from killing weaklings basicaly Darth Maul wins  _________________ i take their clothing, i take their shoes, I take their money, and drink their booze. |
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Winterfox
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Posted: Tuesday, 06 April 2004 11:17AM |
Quote: Posted 04/05/04 22:34:51 (GMT) by x_xSublimex_x
How could Bandon possible win against Maul? Maul took Obi Wan and Qui Gon by himself,when Bandon has 2 other Dark Jedi with him,And Cannot even take you down. Then again,Revan does take Bandon's Master down,What hope does Darth Bandon have?
*sighs* Listen, if these characters were in game, you -- the player -- could probably find a way to defeat every single one of them. Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Palpatine, Maul, Anakin, Vader, Marka freaking Ragnos, Luke Skywalker. The prowess of a character in game, as I said, is an awful gauge with which to measure the characters' power level. _________________ The Shadows You Cast -- Post-KotOR fanfic. Yes, I'm doing a Canderous/fem!Revan ship. Yes, I'm a canon purist. No, they aren't mutually exclusive. |
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s4ct1m0ny
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Posted: Tuesday, 06 April 2004 11:44AM |
Quote: Posted 04/06/04 11:17:27 (GMT) by Winterfox Quote: Posted 04/05/04 22:34:51 (GMT) by x_xSublimex_x
How could Bandon possible win against Maul? Maul took Obi Wan and Qui Gon by himself,when Bandon has 2 other Dark Jedi with him,And Cannot even take you down. Then again,Revan does take Bandon's Master down,What hope does Darth Bandon have?
*sighs* Listen, if these characters were in game, you -- the player -- could probably find a way to defeat every single one of them. Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Palpatine, Maul, Anakin, Vader, Marka freaking Ragnos, Luke Skywalker. The prowess of a character in game, as I said, is an awful gauge with which to measure the characters' power level. That is what I said. I am trying to compare them according to personality,coolness,.etc |
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khaoc
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Posted: Tuesday, 06 April 2004 11:58AM |
Quote: Posted 04/06/04 11:17:27 (GMT) by Winterfox
*sighs* Listen, if these characters were in game, you -- the player -- could probably find a way to defeat every single one of them. Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, Palpatine, Maul, Anakin, Vader, Marka freaking Ragnos, Luke Skywalker. The prowess of a character in game, as I said, is an awful gauge with which to measure the characters' power level.
theres a difference between game-mechanics and storyline. trying to settle this in terms of game mechanics is pointless, so you could try doing it storywise. maul would prolly be stronger.
about the whole maul vs ob1 thing, maul effectively won the duel, he simply got gimped so the story could continue. much like anakin when dueling dooku, he was owning him and then all of a sudden he froze for like 2 seconds so dooku could slash his arm  _________________ "We have no plans to develop a sequel or expansion to KotOR at this time." - Stanley Woo |
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Ragnarok100
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Posted: Tuesday, 06 April 2004 05:12PM |
Maul OWNS Bandon.I mean, who wants to listen to a loudmouth, shorttempered, foolishly dressed MINION like Bandon when they could be in the presence of then Menacing, Skilled, and Controlled Darth Maul, Ancient Sith Tattoos.He probably had his own personal Massassi Great Temple on Yavin4.He probably OWNED THE PLANET!8)
Maul, hands down!  _________________ Isaac picked the Credits off the table, "You're a contact now, Jabba..."He Blasted Jabba's tail and left the Arena Stadium, 500,000 Republic Credits richer. |
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USPS_Regruntling_Center
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Posted: Tuesday, 06 April 2004 08:21PM |
Had Lucas allowed Ray Park (the guy who played Darth Maul) to use his real voice, instead of dubbing over someone else's voice, many of you would be thinking "No way that sissy-voiced character wins!"
Don't get me wrong... Ray Park is a cool character in real life, and his mastery of Wushu is great, but he does speak in a weak, higher pitched voice.  |
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Ragnarok100
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Posted: Tuesday, 06 April 2004 08:51PM |
...rriigghhtt...
Maul is good anyway  _________________ Isaac picked the Credits off the table, "You're a contact now, Jabba..."He Blasted Jabba's tail and left the Arena Stadium, 500,000 Republic Credits richer. |
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